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Last days?

Last post 07/04/2008, 4:57 AM by dgafkjen. 14 replies.
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dgafkjen
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Re: Last days?
07/04/2008, 4:57 AM
God hit me on the forhead and asked "what are you doing?" I didnt know, I had spent most of my life chasing death, so I asked him, simple as that, I found him to be real! and all's he asked in return is that I belive in him and tell others, God is coming and he tells us that the end will be bad because satin knows his time is due.

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Crusher
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Re: Last days?
07/03/2008, 3:24 PM

Great points Hyer!  Amen.

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
06/25/2008, 12:51 PM

My thoughts on God getting angry about same sex relationships is the same as my thought on religion in general...mans view of how they THINK God is.  Why would God pick and choose homosexuality and not murder or rape or adultery or pedophilia or anything else to get angry about?  People seem to put God in boxes and view him/her as a God that condemns their own personal convictions about life. If your pastor is not teaching on any subject just to win the respect of members or attendance , then he isn't really teaching to spread the gospel (GOOD NEWS), he's teaching for credibility or accountability. Why don't you ask him to? Better yet why don't you do your own research on the Bible and homosexuality? You will find that your spirit is right about being a lesbian having nothing to do with the end time.

 

Soulpeace!  Ev.

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1chunk1dd
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Re: Last days?
06/21/2008, 7:10 PM

Well you know some people seem to think that being with someone of the same sex is so why God is getting so angry with the world and that it's one of the reasons he's so soon to come.  The Pastor of the church does not teach at all on homosexualality.  I think he would, but out of fear of losing members he doesn't.  I can't really ever say what's seriously in my spirit about it.  I don't feel like my being a lesbian has anything to do with end times.  I feel like when you're truly happy with yourself and who you are, then you can fully be in tune with your spiritualality.  It's like that's all they want to talk about, how homosexuals are on the rise and God is so angry with the world for it.  What do you think?

 

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
06/05/2008, 9:44 PM

Welcome 1chunk1dd,

You are very fortunate to have a fulfilling and be the happiest you've ever been in life...that's a great blessing within itself.  I'm curious as to what kind of sugar coating you feel uncomfortable about concerning the end times, could you elaborate a bit please?

Soulpeace!  Ev.

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1chunk1dd
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Re: Last days?
06/05/2008, 11:59 AM
Hello everyone, well my life is fulfilling only my partner an I know just how fulfilling,  We are leaders in our church and lots of people look to us for advice and encouragement.  I sometimes feel uncomfortable having to sugar coat what it is I really want to say about the end times.  I have never been this happy with someone in my life and to know that people want me to believe that this is wrong,  I can[t get with it.  Just like you said, I have been hearing end times since I was a child.  I do believe more and more of the bible is being fulfilled, however I think end times will be different than people are thinking it will be.

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Crusher
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Re: Last days?
05/30/2008, 7:55 AM
Thanks.  Hope the conversation continues...

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
05/26/2008, 11:13 AM
Welcome Crusher!

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Crusher
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Re: Last days?
05/24/2008, 2:16 PM

Hello all,

I am new to this site and as I was browsing around found this group and I have been reading all of the posts.  I have a strong family background in Christianity, worshiping at a variety of churches over the years due to being a military brat,  I feel I have a pretty ecletic view point as my parents always taught us to keep an open mind and heart.  This topic and threads peaked an interest...

As far as the "end of days", I think it is pretty arrogant of some to declare what God will do and when.  As far as I am concerned, we are always facing the "end of days".  If we lose this life today are we prepared to face Jesus and be judged?  If not, then whether the anti-christ is alive and among us doesn't really matter.   Your shield is not found in the words of man, but in the grace that comes through faith in Jesus.   "Whom shall I fear...?"  As Christians, we should be concerned daily of how we show that grace to others and there is no time like the present to seek to bring others to his table.  You never know when you or they will be called home.

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
05/18/2008, 1:06 PM

Monsar,

Regarding the things in the Bible, I'm sure some of what you're referring to is: Romans 1:26-27,  1 Corinthians 6:9, and  Leviticus 1:18.  What if I told you there is proof that these scriptures where misinterpreted for thousands of years...would you give it so thought to found out how?

I think it's great and extremely noble that you both are fine with how you feel God made you despite what people and the churches think the Bible reads. Just continues being who you are and being true to yourself. People forget that although inspired by God, the Bible is written by man and his own interpretation of God.  God speaks to everyone differently. We cannot all fit into one box and we all certainly can't be the same.  I encourage you to check out www.gaychristian.net  and become part of the community forums.  Read others post and ask questions.  I'm sure you'll find many going through what your going through.

 

I'm wishing you peace in your soul my dear!  Ev.

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Monsar
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Re: Last days?
05/17/2008, 7:50 PM
Thank you for your kind words. I have a friend whom I talked with about this recently. She tells me that there is all kinds of saying in the bible, that I also know that are there, about homosexuallity. That its not the way God wanted us to be. But also we both are ok with it cause we believe no matter what that we are born the way we are. I can't help but to notice other girls. We believe with everything that He made us the way he wanted just to see if we follow. I am a christian and I totally believe that My God sent his son to die for me. But I love women. I can't help that. Now I do know that someday I will eventually marry a man and have kids. Just the same I will always be the way I am. I am proud to be that way I am, Gay! I just wish my family looked at it the same. Now I have 3 other sisters and I told them about myself and it seems that they don't bother me about it as much as my mom. To her its the worst thing ever. I know that she knows but she doesn't want to talk about it or admit it. My family is interacial, I am half mexican half white, and on either side they don't care for gay people. We are more of the "Don't ask don't tell" type. I have yet to hear any stories on anyone in the family being gay. But its ok with me. Soon I'll move again and have my own life back again. I do wish it didn't have to be this way.

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
05/12/2008, 4:06 PM

Hi Monsar and welcome to the group!

I'm sorry for your struggles.  It seems that your family is very religious as is mine.  I personally feel if it's bringing you such turmoil whenever you go home because of your family belief system...you will have to be strong enough to express yourself to them.  It may not change the way the feel about the subject but at least you'll have expressed your belief which everyone is entitled to.  Maybe you'd feel more comfortable with writing a letter or email.  I've heard that this is a great way to fully express what you feel without getting tongue tided or a lost for words.  There is a great movie called For the Bible Tells me so that has help people show there loved ones what it means to be gay.  You can even buy a CD..I have it...it's so well orchestrated.  A must see for gay and str8. www.forthebibletellsmeso.com  or it may be .org.   Most of all don't deny who you know God made you to be just because people don't understand yet. 

 

I hope you find soulpeace!  Ev.

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hyer
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Re: Last days?
05/12/2008, 3:53 PM

Sorry for the delay in responding TnT. 

 To be quite frank...I've been told we were living in the last days ever since I was very young, and here I am about 40 years later...people are still saying this as they discover certain passages in Revelations.  They say look at the signs of the times....wars and rumors of wars, etc.  I grew up in a religious family which was being taught  and studying the Bible in a literal light.  I have learned we can't take the Bible literally...it is filled with a lot of metaphors that supported the context and time period of the day.  Not at all denying it's validity but I believe no one can't put a time frame upon the world ending. I think it's a matter of your belief systems in how the last days will come.

Thanks for starting this thread.  

 Soulpeace!  Ev. 

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Monsar
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Re: Last days?
05/12/2008, 1:31 PM
Hi, I am a new member to this group. Let alone this website. I really appreciate all the things said in everyone's comments and reply's to your topic. I too have a big issue that has to be delt with by myself. I have gotten great incouragement from your words. And I pray the everything that has been said will reach the ears of those who rise against us. I love my family in christ alot but I can't stand when they rebuke me and my fellow gay people of america. If God made us in his own image and God knows what are fate is, and he gave us the power of free will then why do we have all these problems. I hate facing everyday not knowing if its ok to talk about my chance to come out. I try to find the right words. I live in a family that brings out the bible and sits and prays each time I come home with a new tatoo, and I have 5. When will it be time for me to say how I really feel and finally be free of these chains that hold me down. I have no way of being able to tell anyone in my family that I have a strong attraction to women, and that I have never stopped this feeling since I've been back. Could someone please help me?

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TamiandTareasea
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