Hey folks,

 \Wanted to answer any questions...

 We are going to do many wonderful things to the community including upgrading each unit with tile, upgraded carpeting, redone kitchens as well as some additional soundproofing  and more.The complex itself will have many wonderful improvements. We are adding a second pool that is salt water for laps and soaking, and a dog run, work on the clubhouse and upgrade the gym, additional jacuzzi's and barbecue areas, a concert area on the green and we're still debating a putting green.  The clubhouse will also be remodeled. It's a beautiful complex and set up well for a community feel.

 About the reviews, I spent time there and the grounds and pool et al are very well kept up and lovely. There has been new management that has been terrific and sometimes reviews reflect a variety of points of view for reasons we can't always know.

I've been there, I think it's terrific and will be more incredible once we get done with all of the upgrades and improvements.

 Meantime, come check our site at www.Oliviacommunities.com and call our community consultant  team who will happily discuss any questions you have.

We will have an incredible community...you ofcourse will have the opportunity to see for yourselves obviously, before you make a final committment. Now just take a look and enjoy the possibility of our very first resort community in Tucson. I'm very excited that this is happening.

If you have anything you want to ask...feel free!

 Judy

Wow, thanks for all the research. Good to know about the thin walls. My question is this:

What is the cost of the square footage of the Olivia community condo vs any other condo?

Any info would be greatly appreciated,

Jody

I was very excited at the prospect of living in an Olivia community. My partner and I have been looking at our options for living in a lesbian/gay housing situation. An Olivia community, offering what we are looking for, would be our first choice.

But I didn't find much practical information in Olivia's e-mail and web descriptions. I have a lot of questions. But first, I decided to do a bit of research. Here are some of the facts I've found:

First, the condominum is currently called "The Condominium at Williams Centre". It's located in a mixed residential/office/commercial area. Texas Instruments has moved their Tucson offices across the street. The Southern Arizona campus of the University of Phoenix (incorrectly called the U of Arizona in the web description) is also across the street. On the south side of the condos is Vail Middle School, which is part of the Tucson Public school system.

Here is a map I've made showing the location and surrounding area

A Mapquest map showing the location can be viewed here

Here is an aerial view via MS Virtual Earth (click on "Aerial" or "Bird's Eye View")

The current condo website, including photos, can be found here

I've found some reviews of the condo's/apartments. Many mentioned the great location. I only read those newer comments posted from 2007 to the present. While most of the comments obviously reflect the policies/procedures of the current management, one recurring thread stood out for me. That was the sound problem...5 reviewers mentioned a problem with "thin walls". This is a issue that can't be solved by changing management, or owners...nor would Olivia's proposed upgrades resolve the sound problem.

One example comment:

"As everyone has mentioned, the walls are thin!! I can't tell you how many nights I have been awaken to someone playing music, having mattress mambo, or just having a regular conversation. You can always here the plumbing from when someone is taking a showing or using the toilet."

Original quote source here

You can read all the reviews here

I also have some questions about how this setup would work....

- As Olivia has said, they expect most owners will be part-time residents. Can we rent out our condos when we're not using them?

- If an owner were to sell, what's to prevent her from selling to someone other than a lesbian? Could the HOA legally admit lesbians only?

What are your thoughts?