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evergreen
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Re: LBGT's in Turkey
01/11/2010, 10:18 AM
Agatha Christie wrote her famous novel "Murder on the Orient Express" at Pera Palas Hotel in Istanbul.

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evergreen
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Re: LBGT's in Turkey
01/11/2010, 10:16 AM
Istanbul is one of the biggest cities in the world, with over 13 million population.

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CSiverson
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LBGT's in Turkey
01/07/2010, 2:39 PM

I'm a bit of a socio-political junkie and like to know where LBGT folks stand in the countries I visit.  Here's an exerpt from an article I found on the web. 

Another interesting bit: Turkey has had something like 17 annual Pride parades in Instabul - last one was end of June in '09. 

Click here for the full article:

 http://merip.org/mero/interventions/oktem_interv.html

There is wide consensus that Turkey is a “hinge state,” a hybrid of the political and also sexual regimes and ideologies of Europe and the Middle East.[1] Turkey’s neighbors to the east have considered homosexuality a punishable offense for the better part of a century, due to British or French mandate-era civil codes or conservative interpretations of Islamic law; its neighbors to the west have followed restrictive Communist legislation or conservative Orthodox Christian legal mores to the same conclusion. But homosexuality has not been an issue of criminal justice in Turkey since the modern nation-state emerged in the 1920s. The only territory under Turkish control where homosexuality is banned is northern Cyprus, where British anti-sodomy laws were incorporated into the Cypriot and, later, the Turkish Republic of Cyprus penal code.

Yet as liberal and cosmopolitan as Istanbul and other cities in western Turkey look in comparison to cities in nearby countries, Turkey remains a deeply conservative -- if highly heterogeneous and regionally differentiated -- society gripped by a patriarchal and militarist state ideology rooted in the foundational myths of Kemalism. If many gays and lesbians prosper as professionals or within the arts and media sectors, and some gay rights activists carve out spaces of interaction protected to a degree from state intrusion, transgender people are exposed by both the visible manifestations of their sexual orientation and their engagement in sex work. As Elif Shafak argues, the Kemalist modernization project “required the mapping of gender roles and public-private zones, as well as the redrawing of the boundaries in between.”[2] Kemalist and Islamist responses to transgender individuals are equally negative, but the former is probably more hateful: The transsexual condition is particularly threatening to the ideological constructs of modern Turkey’s very essence, the clearly, albeit differently, circumscribed roles for men and women in the public sphere. But the loud and public advocacy of all gender non-conforming people, gays and lesbians included, for equal rights throws into question key tenets of the republic: militarism, male hegemony and de-feminized femininity, a concept exemplified by the female doctors, nurses and teachers, who were expected to subordinate their sexuality to the ideal of selfless service of the nation.

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Jill_Linda
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Re: Istanbul
12/28/2009, 6:48 AM

I am looking forward to real Turkish pistachio nuts!!!

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Re: Istanbul
12/27/2009, 9:58 AM

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evergreen
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Istanbul
12/16/2009, 9:38 AM
Istanbul has been capital of the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Latin Empire, and the Ottoman Empire, yet it isn't the capital city of modern Turkey, which is Ankara. Istanbul is however the largest city in Turkey.
 
Despite its location in southern Europe and on the edge of the Asian continent, snowfall is common in Istanbul. The average annual snowfall is 18 inches.
 
In 2010 Istanbul will be one of three European Cities of Culture.
 
Source: Turkey Travel

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Re: Christmas in Greece
12/15/2009, 12:08 PM
Christmas in Turkey
We wish you a Merry Xmas

Turkey is a Moslem country. Although there are Catholic and Jewish minorities, mostly Turks are Moslems. The Turkish minorities live in peace with Turkish Moslems and have their own places of worship. You will find churches and synagogues all over Istanbul.

For the Moslems, December 24th is not a date that commemorates Jesus' birth . They do have Jesus at their Koran (Moslems' Holy book) but the mostly important figure in their religion is Mohammed the prophet.

At the end of the year, Istanbul will be decorated with lights all over it's main streets, but this is done to commemorate the new year.

We wish you a Merry Xmas!

Interesting things could be seen in Istanbul as Santa Claus gives sweets to children on the streets or shopping malls and Christmas trees have a place in some Turkish houses and shops.

This is a sign that the west mentality has come to Turkey.

Another interesting fact is that they give each other a gift at new year eve but not on the 24th of December.

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evergreen
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Re: Christmas in Greece
12/15/2009, 11:56 AM
Thanks Jana. I love learning as much as possible about places before we visit. What did we do pre Internet?!?! Oh I know...the library & Fodors books!

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Re: Christmas in Greece
12/15/2009, 11:44 AM

Julie…I love reading everything you post here!!!

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evergreen
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Christmas in Greece
12/15/2009, 11:03 AM
CHRISTMAS IN GREECE
*December 25th

by Gary Van Haas

Christmas was never considered much of a holiday in Greece compared with Easter, but things have slowly changed and now it's finally become a much cherished. For instance, now you'll find Christmas in Greece celebrated with lavish decorations and lights strung across most of the streets in major cities and towns. Athens in particular has responded to the revival of Christmas where its flamboyant mayor, Dimitris Avramopoulos, has added new colour to the festivities by erecting the largest Christmas tree in Europe. This tree can be seen towering above busy Syntagma (Constitution square), where Athens now also hosts exciting 'live' stage acts and shows featuring many of Greece's popular entertainers.

But the beginnings of Christmas in Greece go back to the time of St. Nicholas, who was known as the patron saint of sailors. According to Greek tradition, his clothes were soaked with brine, his beard drenched with saltwater, and his face is covered with perspiration because he had been fighting the storms and waves to reach sinking ships and rescue drowning men from the sea. Even today there is still an old custom where many ships never leave port without a St. Nicholas icon carried in the boat.

In Greece, there are many Christmas customs that are similar, yet slightly different from the West. Such as the custom on Christmas Eve where village children travel from house to house offering good wishes and singing 'kalanda', the equivalent of Christmas carols. The children often accompany the songs using small metal triangles and little clay drums. Afterwards, the children are usually given sweets or coins in appreciation.

In Greek Christmas, the feast itself becomes the main attraction by both adults and children alike. Lamb and pork are roasted in ovens and open spits, and on almost every table are loaves of 'christopsomo' ('Christ bread'). This bread is usually made in large sweet loaves of various shapes and the crusts are engraved and decorated in some way that reflects the family's profession.

In Greek homes, Christmas trees are not commonly used, but recently have become more popular. In almost every house though- the main symbol of the season is a shallow wooden bowl with a piece of wire is suspended across the rim; from that hangs a sprig of basil wrapped around a wooden cross. A small amount of water is kept in the bowl to keep the basil alive and fresh. Once a day, a family member, usually the mother, dips the cross and basil into some holy water and uses it to sprinkle water in each room of the house. This ritual is believed to keep the 'Killantzaroi' (bad spirits) away. There are a number of beliefs connected with these spirits, which are supposed to be a species of goblins who appear only during the 12-day period from Christmas to the Epiphany (January 6). These creatures are believed to come from the center of the earth and to slip into people's house through the chimney. More mischievous than actually evil, the Killantzaroi do things like extinguish fires, ride astride people's backs, braid horses' tails, and sour the milk. To further repel the undesirable sprites, the hearth is kept burning day and night throughout the twelve days. Gifts are finally exchanged on St. Basil's Day (January 1). On this day the "renewal of waters" also takes place, a ritual in which all water jugs in the house are emptied and refilled with new "St. Basil's Water." The ceremony is often accompanied by offerings to the 'naiads', spirits of springs and fountains. All in all, Christmas is an enjoyable part of Greece toady and one that should be experienced by all.

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Re: Interesting facts & trivia
12/06/2009, 11:44 AM

Okay, since Greece was the spot for the Olympic Games here's some fun facts. 

  • -the first olympics were in 776 BCE and there was one event, a short 200 meter sprint called a stade
  • -thousands would come from all over greece to watch the games, the main stadium held 45,000 and they still needed thousands of tents!
  • -married women could be put to death for watching the games!
  • -in the ancient olympics winners were given olive wreaths
  • -they were so serious about thier games that one athlete who backed out was fined with cowardice!

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evergreen
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Re: Interesting facts & trivia
12/06/2009, 11:34 AM
It was the Turks who introduced coffee to Europe.

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Smoochees-mom
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Re: Interesting facts & trivia
12/06/2009, 11:04 AM

"Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death, and as sweet as love"  Turkish Proverb

Finely grinding coffee beans and boiling them in water is still know as "Turkish Coffee"

It is made this way today in Turkey & Greece or anywhere else Turkish Coffee is served.

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Sundolphin
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Re: Interesting facts & trivia
12/05/2009, 7:10 AM
Yes, one cup of Turkish coffee, and one gallon of water to rinse off your teeth afterward! Gotta love it! Wink

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JoanandJeri
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Re: Interesting facts & trivia
12/04/2009, 10:23 PM

julie,

that turkish coffee sounds right up my alley, i can't wait to try it!

jeri CoffeeGeeked

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