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Pre and Post-trip extensions

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JillCruse
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Shorebirds2
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Re: Pre and Post-trip extensions
07/11/2009, 11:26 AM

Jill,

Thanks for the information on the tentative pre and post trip plans!  We have read in some tour guides that the Grand Bazaar is closed on Sundays (the day of the pre-trip extension) but is open Mon-Sat from 9:00 am to 6:30 pm.  So, this may not be possible to do on the pre trip extension.... So if folks are interested in seeing/shopping in the Grand Bazaar, they may want to arrive an extra day early.  Also, can you tell us who Olivia's partner travel agency is in case we would like to book additional days at the hotel?

Thanks,
Marsha and Helen

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evergreen
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07/09/2009, 5:58 AM

The last time we went to Ephasus we met 2 sweet little girls who seemed to be on a school trip, they were approx. 8 years old. They followed us around & were very charming. When we were on the tour bus waiting to return to the ship, they suddenly appeared again with presents. They had bought us a couple of locally handicrafted souvenirs (A bracelet & a key chain). That was in 1984 & we still treasure those gifts.

 

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sleddog
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07/08/2009, 9:41 PM

So right you are J 'n J ~ here's an article from the The Advocate by Sue Rochman, April 24, 2001

 

Are you aware that hundreds of lesbian shoppers were able to transform the Turkish economy in less than a day? If not, then you probably haven't met Judy Dlugacz, founder and president of Olivia Cruises and Resorts. And if you haven't met Dlugacz, then you probably don't know that her goal is to take every lesbian on the best vacation of her life and promote same-sex rights in the process.

"This is another way to create visibility and create freedom," Dlugacz says of the cruises. "There is nothing more freeing than these vacations. I feel in that way I'm still kind of a missionary. We go all over the world. We are well received and well respected wherever we go."

Dlugacz began her career as an entrepreneur in the lesbian community with Olivia Records, a women's music label that was once home to Cris Williamson and Tret Fure, among others. But her travel packages have brought her the sort of business success that any executive would love to have. Olivia Cruises has seen its revenues grow 10% to 20% each of the past five years, practically doubling the size of the company. As many as 1,200 sapphic travelers sign up for one of Olivia's offerings. At a cost that can run anywhere from $1,299 per person, based on double occupancy for early-bird booking on an Alaska cruise, to $3,899 per person for the owner's suite on a Tahiti excursion, the cruises provide fun for those attending and a healthy profit for the woman who has managed to bring together feminism and capitalism.

For many, the name Olivia brings to mind images of concert halls filled with lesbians reveling in women's music. And that shouldn't be a surprise: Nearly three decades ago Dlugacz and four other women founded Olivia Records. "We wanted to do something political together," Dlugacz recalls. "We were talking about what to do, and Cris Williamson came through town and said, `Why don't you guys just start a women's record company?' And so we thought, That's it. That will change the world."

Olivia did change the music world for women. But women were changing too. "The record company did a lot of work to develop women's music and culture," Dlugacz says, "but then there was a new generation and a new culture. It became clear to me that it might be time to stop doing Olivia Records, but I couldn't figure out what to do."

Fate, however, was on her side. On the first night of the Olivia Records 15th anniversary concert tour in 1988, a woman suggested to Dlugacz that she do a concert on the water. "I thought, Concert ... cruise. And then I thought, Vacations for women. I could do that!" Dlugacz recalls.

Dlugacz had never been on a cruise. But she quickly learned what she needed to know. Before long she'd chartered a ship for a four-night cruise from Miami to the Bahamas and had sent a letter to all of the women on the Olivia Records mailing list about her latest venture. The next thing she knew, 600 women had signed up. When even more voiced a desire to go, she chartered another ship for a second voyage.

Dlugacz found that she had discovered a niche market that no one had even known existed: lesbian travel adventures. So she began planning for her new business. Dlugacz began exploring the world, going on an array of straight cruises and planning unique itineraries. To date, she's organized about 50 excursions, and more than 30,000 women have traveled with Olivia to places such as Australia, New Zealand, the Mexican Caribbean, and Alaska.

Other than the destinations, there is little similarity to straight cruises. "We design all the activities that are on board," Dlugacz explains. "We bring our own entertainment, staff, musicians, comedians, and DJs. I've always treated each cruise like a multiple-night concert production."

And it's not just about exposing lesbians to new places but exposing these places to large numbers of women-loving women. Nowhere was that more clear than on the Olivia cruise to Greece and Turkey two years ago. At the time, Dlugacz explains, because of the war in Bosnia, there were few travelers in Turkey. So when the women disembarked in Kusadasi and began to shop and shop, everyone quickly noticed.

"The local media learned about the sudden economic infusion," says Dlugacz, and by the time the ship arrived in Istanbul two days later, "major articles had been on the front page of the local newspapers about the 400 women from the Olivia club who were on a cruise and had come to Turkey and spent haft a million dollars and saved the economy." As a result, Dlugacz says, everyone wanted their attention--and their money. "We were in the Grand Bazaar," Dlugacz says, "and the shop owners were screaming, `Lovely lesbian ladies, come to my shop!'"

Such experiences have fueled Dlugacz's interest in how communities respond to the women who travel with Olivia "That's the amazing thing about doing a cruise," she says, "You're not there for long. And by the time they figure out who we are, we're gone and we've left a lot of money in our wake--which is not to be underestimated."

Today, Dlugacz enjoys the perks of her success. She drives a flashy red BMW and lives with her life partner of 23 years in a newly purchased home in exclusive Marin County, Calif., complete with ocean views. And although Olivia Cruises and Resorts is housed in the same warehouse where Olivia Records used to be, little else is the same. The warehouse was recently completely renovated and now boasts a turquoise exterior and a lavender-and-gold interior. It's quite a contrast from the surrounding not-yet-gentrified neighborhood of stucco houses and low-rise office buildings. It's a continual reminder of where Olivia began--and how far Dlugacz has come.

And Dlugacz isn't done yet. She's determined to keep Olivia growing. "Olivia has been very successful," she says. "But at the same time, we take only about 4,500 women on trips each year. So I sit here sometimes and think, That's so many, yet so few. How many millions of lesbians are there? These are incredible trips. Why aren't they coming with us? And that's the challenge for me to figure out."

 

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JoanandJeri
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Re: Pre and Post-trip extensions
07/08/2009, 8:43 PM
How does the story go......of how the "lovely lesbian ladies" of Olivia saved the Turkish ecomony?

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sleddog
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07/08/2009, 7:38 PM

On the last trip we took to Turkey and Greece with Olivia ~ we were treated like Queens!

Not all countries treat gays badly ~ look at the US ~ it's not always so gay friendly!

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evergreen
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07/08/2009, 4:10 PM
Also, according to Wapedia, Homosexual acts are legal. It was decriminalized by the Ottoman Empire in 1858!!! However, gays have no other legal rights such as recognition of same-sex relationships, anti-discrimination laws, same sex adoption, etc etc.

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evergreen
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07/08/2009, 2:39 PM

Here's some info on Gay Istanbul. It would seem that it's well accepted there:

http://www.turkeygay.net/istanbul.html

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OliviaTravel34407
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Re: Pre and Post-trip extensions
07/08/2009, 1:37 PM

Thanks a lot!  While this is our third Olivia vacation, we are a bit concerned about traveling to Turkey. Just how gay friendly is it? Are there any clothing restrictions or "expectations?"  Obviously to the extent that we are with the group, we would feel far more comfortable than otherwise. Please keep us updated as we would love to make those hotel arrangements sooner rather than later.

 Thanks again, Maggie and Joanne

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valerie1
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07/08/2009, 8:37 AM
Oooooh, I like those plans!  It all sounds so good, I am so excited and thank you much for your research Jill!! Your welcome Joana and Jeri, I so look forward to meeting all of you!

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evergreen
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07/08/2009, 5:22 AM
Terrific Jill, thanks...............

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JoanandJeri
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Re: Pre and Post-trip extensions
07/07/2009, 4:51 PM

That sounds wonderful!

Thanks, Jill, for sharing this little preview of what you're working on!

And thanks, Valerie, for asking!

Jeri-n-Joan

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JillCruse
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07/07/2009, 4:11 PM

Hi Valerie! Absolutely I can give you some hints of what I am working on at this very moment! Now, keep in mind this is not confirmed, but here's what it is looking like:

We will have some group air available through our partner Travel Agency that we guarantee will be cheaper than you can find anywhere else!

Oct. 2-3 2010 - One night in Istanbul that will include your transfer from the airport, one night hotel at 4-5 star hotel, A Turkish-themed dinner with dancers, breakfast, morning tour of Istanbul including the Blue Mosque and shopping in the Grand Bizarre then a transfer to the ship. No fuss - no worries. We take care of you from the moment you arrive at the airport!

Oct. 10-11, 2010. Transfer from the ship and have a tour Athens to get acclimated, including the Acropolis and the Plaka shopping area. Arrive at your hotel for some afternoon free time to explore (walking distance to the Plaka) and enjoy one night hotel at 4 star hotel. Dinner on your own that night but you'll have lots of new friends to put together small groups with. Breakfast the next morning, and transfers on your own to the airport the following day depending on your flights.

If you want additional nights at either hotel, our partner travel agency will be happy to make those arrangements.  How does that sound?

-Jill

 

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valerie1
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Pre and Post-trip extensions
07/06/2009, 2:48 PM
I was so happy to read that Olivia will be offering pre and post-trip extensions 13 months prior to the trip.  This gives us all plenty of time to plan, I cant wait to see what Olivia has in store for us, I am waiting patiently for this info.  Jill, any hints...hmmmm.Whisper

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